What is the origin of these Barosaurus photos?

February 27, 2022

For this forthcoming Barosaurus paper, we would like to include an establishing photo of the AMNH Barosaurus mount. There are two strong candidate photos which we’ve used before in an SVPCA talk, but since this is a formal publication we need to be more careful about copyright. Here are the photos, which are the property of their respective rightsholders:

This one is hard to find at all, at least using Google’s reverse image search. Whereas this one …

… is sprinkled all over the Internet, but (in all the cases I’ve seen so far) without attribution.

Does anyone have the necessary skills to track down who the rightsholder is for either of these? Thank you!

6 Responses to “What is the origin of these Barosaurus photos?”

  1. llewelly Says:

    I wonder if you could substitute one of the wikimedia commons photos of the AMNH Barosaurus mount for one of the photos you can’t locate rights info on.

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Barosaurus_(specimen_AMNH_6341)

  2. Mike Taylor Says:

    I did look over this earlier today, but they’re not very good compositions.

  3. Nick Gardner Says:

    Check with Denis Finnin, the director of photography at AMNH. Some similarly lighting/composition of these mounts but from different angles are attributed to him.

  4. Mike Taylor Says:

    Thanks, Nick, I’ll try this.

  5. Nick Gardner Says:

    For the first image, the table place settings look like what was happening in the photos at these events (other photos of the hall during an event use different table cloths, have different flags on the wall, etc.).

    https://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/23848-2/

    Contrast with:
    https://www.insideweddings.com/inspiration/photo/27296/wedding-site-location/cocktail-hour-at-the-museum/

    http://www.lperryevents.com/corporate-non-profit

    The other thing to notice vs these events, there’s no banner on the walls as you go into the archway that is directly opposite the space between the two dinosaurs.
    But I can’t find dates or anything that would help pen down the difference of time between these pictures. Maybe this post will help some other reader recognize something that stands out!

  6. Daniel Gonçalves Says:

    According to the web archives of the official website of the AMNH, the second photograph is its property. Indeed, the first occurrence on the net of this image is found on this site (I used TinEye for this). http://web.archive.org/web/20120726030726/https://www.amnh.org/plan-your-visit/plan-a-school-group-or-camp-group-visit
    Here are the copyright terms in effect when the image first appeared. http://web.archive.org/web/20160320074103/http://www.amnh.org/about-the-museum/copyright
    I didn’t find anything for the first.


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